Some time back I was involved in some threads at Romance Divas and Absolute Write on the subject of The Wild Rose Press. Many glowing reports were made of what TWRP is doing--which is great. I did feel obliged to mentioned that the last time I had data (sales data being kinda 'my thing') average sales per title was somewhat less than 20. At the time I failed to notice how TWRP characterised this thread in their publicly accessible readers loop. That is:
"I've been told by several authors and writers that there is some negative talk about The Wild Rose Press on some loops like romance divas and there's another one that I don't remember right now.Anyway, the talk has been nasty and spiteful and while I have not read the posts from what I've been told its become quite the bashing."
For the record I want to say that I think that sales levels for a publisher absolutely should be discussed. A writer is a laborer who gets to set the value the place on their work, including its financial value. The only way they can know how much a publisher will pay for their work is by knowing the profit per book and the likely sales volume per title. Supportive communities and positive affirmations are great, but not normally higher on my list of writing goals than reaching a substantial readership. Others may have different goals, which is certainly okay with me--but writers communities are all about providing information of in choosing a publisher--including estimated earnings per title.
Either that or I, and others who took the role of devil's advocate in this discussion, are unprofessional, jealous, ignorant haters who lie sleepless at night formulating spiteful plans to taint the joys of others.
Take your pick.
Edited to fix link.