Wednesday, November 10, 2010

(trigger warning) Amazon Hits a New Low

Sharp-eyed customers have noticed Amazon selling a Kindle version of "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure" which the author describes thusly: "This is my attempt to make pedophile situations safer for those juveniles that find themselves involved in them, by establishing certian rules for these adults to follow. I hope to achieve this by appealing to the better nature of pedosexuals, with hope that their doing so will result in less hatred and perhaps liter sentences should they ever be caught."

A live chat response to this is was (in part):
Me:The book is called, "The Pedophile's Guide to Love and Pleasure."
Kimneihoi :Yes, the offer which you saw on Facebook about a book being offered by Amazon is correct.
Me:Are you kidding me? Amazon is offering a book for pedophiles?
Kimneihoi: we'll as per my knowledge, it is.

I am sanguine about pretty much anything and everything on the world of fiction.  But I think that a 'how to' guide for child sexual abuse  really, really does cross a line.

ETA: This seems to be Amazon's response? (see also here):
"Let me assure you that does not support or promote hatred or criminal acts; we do support the right of every individual to make their own purchasing decisions. believes it is censorship not to sell certain titles because we believe their message is objectionable. Therefore, we'll continue to make controversial works available in the United States and everywhere else, except where they're prohibited by law. We also allow readers, authors, and publishers to express their views freely about these titles and other products we offer on our website. However, doesn't endorse opinions expressed by individual authors, musical artists, or filmmakers."

ETA: Users on the Amazon forum note that negaitve reviews of this book are being deleted.

Congratulations, Amazon.  You may have finally discovered an #amazonfail big enough to cause you some serious financial pain.


Anonymous said...

I'm not in favor of any kind of censorship, and the US First Amendment isn't either. As long as it's a "theoretical" written document that doesn't involve actual photos/films of actual children, I don't object to it being available. I don't agree with the content, but I don't agree with censorship of any kind.

Ainsley said...

The book is gone from amazon now.

The first amendment defense was used quite a bit in the amazon forums about this book to make a case for the publication of the book. Unfortunately, it's bogus. But rather than write about the constitution, and how relevant it is for a business or an individual, I'd like to point out no supposed "freedom" is worth harming a child.

@anonymous: Advice, like tricks to obtain small condoms for a twelve year old child should not be on Kindle. The second chapter of this book is a set of play-by-play "case studies" of molestation, implying a child can consent.

Want to rethink your views?

Ainsley said...

Huh. It's back on amazon again.

Anonymous said...

No, Ainsley, I don't rethink my views. I find the content abhorrent, but I won't censor it. Because once you start censoring something, everything else will follow. It opens a floodgate that would eventually lead to everything being censored.

The Anarchist's Cookbook, which contains recipes for building terrorist bombs in your own kitchen, is widely available in public libraries and bookstores, and librarians fought in court to keep it available. Mein Kampf (Hitler's autobiography/Nazi doctrine Bible) is widely available in the USA when it is banned in Europe. Don't see this any differently.

Anonymous said...

I would also argue that this book is an important teaching tool for understanding pedophile psychology, and would likely lead to research that might help treat these sick individuals.

Anonymous said...

*different anon user*

Still, if Amazon is going to sell this book, then why not sell porn? Every porn writer out there should be pissed that this book gets choice above theirs.

Ainsley said...

...Because once you start censoring something, everything else will follow. It opens a floodgate that would eventually lead to everything being censored...

Yeah, that was the same argument lots of lazy debaters gave on the amazon forums. It's nonsense. Society can have standards and expectations without civilizations crumbling. The slippery slope argument doesn't hold water.

...I would also argue that this book is an important teaching tool for understanding pedophile psychology...

You can argue all you want, but since you know zero about this book, your statement again puts principle over intellectual substance.

The author says pedos are misunderstood. Why? They love the children they molest. Pedos want to keep them safe. If only society would legalize child rape, children wouldn't be killed. Here's the insight: pedos think they are innocent. Not helpful.

Anonymous said...

I was not going to comment on this, I really wasn't. But I'm the mother to two girls. One is five, the other four months, so here I am to throw in my two cents.

Let me state upfront that I am highly against censorship, even if the issue is something I am morally against. This book, however, goes far beyond that. In essence, it is a how-to in regard to child molestation. Knowing that the author put this book out, that Amazon defended it (only taking it down after a threat of a boycott), and that people are actually arguing in favor of the "right" for this book to remain published just gives me chills. It makes me want to hold my girls a bit tighter and question the world we're living in.

Anonymous said...

Amazon DOES sell porn. A lot of it.